Ep37 Bailie Sloan—The Former Cornell Rower Who Built Henderson's Only Lymphatic Drainage Studio

Bailie Sloan  0:00  
What did this detox protocol? Got regular lymphatic drainage treatments, and it was like almost like everything fell into place. My hormones balanced out significantly better. My kidney function improved. My thyroid function improved. Like my energy became better. Like I just feel it's like good now. I'm like I kind of came out of this, and I was looking back. I was like, man, is this what like everyone else feels like? Like I've been missing out the whole time.

Scott Groves  0:21  
Welcome to Henderson HQ. This is the podcast where you get all the stories behind the businesses that make our community tick. Don't forget to subscribe to our weekly newsletter. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Henderson HQ podcast. Don't forget to subscribe to our weekly newsletter at HendersonHQ.com. Also, check out the website for a bunch of resources. I'm here with my new friend Bailey, who is the owner of Tox Studio out here in Henderson, which is a franchise. And I always forget between every franchisee, franchise, or there is somebody who is actually a small business owner, and they're going to talk about all the treatments that they do, why it's important, why it's different. I got a whole education on this when we met via Zoom, so Bailey, why don't we just start there? Like, what is talks at TLX for those of you that are listening and not watching on YouTube? So tell us what it is, and then I want to hear all about how you got into it. And by the way, before we start, you have a super not so secret admirer, and my 10 year old son, as you as you were walking in, he was like, "Dad, that girl's pretty strong. She like was like did did she play rugby? And I was like, no. I think she was just a power lifter. He's like, she's really strong. Like I haven't met a girl stronger than Val, and she looks way stronger than Val. So my 10 year old is a big fan of Bailey. I appreciate

Bailie Sloan  1:34  
that. I was like like pressing 1000 pounds this morning, so I'm appreciative of all the feedback from that. So you're prepping

Scott Groves  1:39  
1000 pounds.

Bailie Sloan  1:40  
Oh yeah.

Scott Groves  1:40  
For those of you that are again listening, not watching on YouTube, I'm sitting across from a young lady that looks like she could beat my behind. So yeah, pretty thick, strong gal. I don't know what pressing 1000 pounds entails, but I don't think I could do that. So we're gonna get into that. Your your background and powerlifting, but tell me about tell me about tox. What is

Bailie Sloan  1:56  
it? So the tox technique. We are a Lysa brand, so we are body we are body contouring, which is lymphatic drainage based. So basically, we're like a really cool overlap of all things like wellness and beauty. So I see like the esthetic component. I like to say we're like a look good and feel good treatment. So there's like the esthetic component, right? So I think a lot of women tend to drift towards lymphatic drainage because you see the visible changes in your body, right? So when you get a treatment, you can expect to see like more defined legs, your waistline, less bloating, less water retention. So most people, most people come out of the treatment room. They look in the mirror and they're like, "Is it just me? Do I look so much more like skinny, snatched, sculpted? I hear all kind of same kind of buzzwords over and over again. I'm like, "No, it's not in your head. Like it's totally real. We take before and after photos, so you can see the changes in your body. So you see you like again like the more defined waistline. It's typically attributed to like the less water attention, less bloating. So you look typically like in your midsection, in particular, more defined, sculpted, skinny-all these words one like to use. So you look just great objectively, and there's also like a wellness component to it too, right? So like your lymphatic system is like the main detoxification pathway in your body. So when you're kind of clearing out that system, you can expect better like gut health, better immunity, um, again less water retention. People who struggle with things like you know maybe constipation, irregular periods, things are kind of atypical in the human body. Helps kind of regulate all those systems, so you feel just great overall.

Scott Groves  3:05  
Okay, so I know this anecdotally to be true because, like, when I look in the mirror and I feel disgusting, and when I look in the mirror and I don't feel disgusting, the number one criteria is like, have I drank a bunch of diet sodas in the last couple days? Because, like, there is something I don't know if this is all people, but in my body, I retain so much more water, and I go from looking like somewhat decently fit to Homer Simpson with like three diet cokes because I can just tell like it's crazy,

Speaker 1  3:29  
right?

Scott Groves  3:30  
All this water and stuff, and I'm like, what is going on? I didn't gain like 10 pounds in the last three days, but is that what's happening? Like the potentially the diet sodas are like throwing off my lymphatic system, so I'm just retaining a bunch of water. Like, does this happen for different reasons? Yeah,

Bailie Sloan  3:44  
and everyone's body is so different. So, like me, for example, I'm the same way. So, I notice like a lot of like artificial sweeteners, like aspartame, sucralose. My gut health just not respondable to those at all. So, if I that's why when I get like coffees, I'm big on like no sugar-free flavors, no nothing. Like even like diet sodas or like, if I want like an energy drink, I try to drift towards things that are more like natural and like have less like preservatives, artificial flavors and sweeteners. Because me personally, I swell up like a balloon every time, and it's not just in your head too. I know we're always our own worst critics. We look in the mirror and you're like, I know yesterday I had like baby abs. Now today I was like, I'm four months pregnant. Like, what happened? I, you know, you can't gain body fat that quickly, so it's not in your head. It's just the water attention. It's usually like, in my opinion, like your body is stressed by something, whether it's like an artificial sweetener, maybe like a pathogen. You're getting ready to get sick. Your body is actively fighting something, so in return, like it's it's inflammatory. So your body kind of swells up. You retain that water. That's why you typically don't look very good. You feel crappy, and it kind of translates overall.

Scott Groves  4:38  
Okay, so what does the lymphatic system do? Because I've heard this, and then like you know the worst case scenario is you get like something lymphatic cancer spreads through your post so fast. So obviously, if like cancer can do the most damage to your body if it hits your lymph system, what what's good about our lymph system? Like, what are you guys doing in the treatment, which is like therapy guns and like kind of a advanced version of massage and things like that? Like, what is the treatment? Actually entail as far as like what what's happening to my body when you guys do it.

Bailie Sloan  5:04  
Sure. So the lymphatic system is probably one of the most underappreciated parts of the human body. So it's like the main way your body kind of cleans itself, so to speak. So again, it's how you detoxify yourself. So we we can think about in human body when you think of like your fluid, right? Also, you have your blood. Everyone knows your heart pumps your blood through your body. It's why whenever you get excited, you have that kind of like adrenaline rush. You can feel like your heart racing. Your lymphatic system, there is no pump, so that fluid in your body moves when you do. So whether or not like you always say go online, people use like those like rebounders, like those jiggle plates, or like those kind of like mini trampolines. That kind of movement stimulates your lymphatic system to keep moving. So unless you're actively moving all day, so you know a lot of us, we sit, we have desk jobs. You're in the car. Not everybody is actively walking and moving your body all day long. So when you're not moving, your lymphatic system just sits kind of stagnant. All that fluid just gets again stagnant in your body. If you can become quote like stagnant in your body. So what we're doing in the technique is we say it's like a massage because we say it's a treatment because rather than like targeting your muscles in a traditional massage, we're targeting your lymphatic system. So the goal is to kind of move that fluid through your body. So that's why when you get off the table, most people immediately are like, "Where's the bathroom? I need to pee. We're pushing that fluid through your body, and that's how your body again kind of cleans and detoxifies itself. So when you're done, it's like, "I need to restroom. I need to pee all this out like immediately.

Scott Groves  6:13  
Okay, so I'm a moron. I barely graduated high school. Like, where where is your lymph system? Is it like part of your nerves, part of your veins, part of your muscles. Like, what? What's what is like? Can I cut open my body and find the lymph system? You could, yeah. It's super,

Bailie Sloan  6:27  
super tiny, but you have your lymph nodes in your body, right? But it's connected to your circulatory system. So, kind of the way the body works is like again. So, when your heart is pumping your blood, that blood hits your capillaries, and that fluid leaks into your lymphatic system. So, the way to think of it is like your blood is pumping through your body. The blood hits the capillaries. It leaks into your lymphatic system, and then that lymph fluid is what is like that self cleaning process begins to look like.

Scott Groves  6:49  
Got it. So like I'm I'm guessing you you mentioned a couple use cases, like you know whether it's dietary or whether it's that time of the month for women or whether it's like sports injuries or stuff like that. I'm guessing anything that makes you static or just throws your body out of regulation. Probably like the lymph system and all the waters and liquids that are in your body. It's just like it's just sitting there getting like toxic or stagnant. Yeah,

Bailie Sloan  7:09  
it gets stagnant. So I remember like my own personal experience. I remember like, and I'll get into like how I found lymphatic drainage. But the first time I begrudgingly tried it, I remember I had a very skilled woman, and she like studied like internationally and went to like I guess kind of like um like the heart and soul of the emphatics. I think in Europe they're a lot more ahead of like a lot of how these like you know like

Scott Groves  7:25  
most like health.

Bailie Sloan  7:26  
Yeah, like I would just call it like boutique wellness. Like they're ahead of the game. So she went to like Amsterdam to study, and she came back. And the first time I got a treatment, she worked on me. On the first thing she noticed, I asked her, "What are you feeling? And she was like, "Your system feels really congested. She goes, "Moving your moving like the the lymph fluid through your body, she's like on my hands. She goes, it feels almost like toothpaste through a tube. It's thick, it's heavy, it's congested, and I was like, ew, it sounds gross. And the first woman warned me. She goes, it can impact you like very severely. Because at the time, I didn't know it, but I was like dealing with a lot of autoimmune conditions, and I had like black mold exposure. I had a lot going on from a functional medicine perspective. So when I got lymphatic drainage and she really pushed it all through me, she was like, "It's gonna hit you so hard. And I remember the next day, I like just peed my brains out. I had like a fever. I was sweating. Like it was coming out of me. And then like once that first kind of day passed, I was like, "I feel amazing. So of course, I went back the next week, and this woman was like, "Don't do it too close together because if you do, like your system's so congested and like overwhelmed, she goes. It could make you sick, and of course I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's like some witch doctor nonsense. Like whatever you say, lady. So I did it again anyway, and she was like, don't say I didn't warn you. And like lo and behold, I got brutally ill. And I'm talking like fever off the charts. Could not stop throwing up. Like it was so intense. I remember I called my functional doc at the time. I'm like, I don't know what's happening, but something's happening. I feel so sick, and he's like, "Well, what did you do? I'm like, "I had two like two hour long lymphatic drainage treatments, like back to back, like within the course of like five days. And he goes, "Oh, well, that's why it's all coming out of you. So you have to like fight through all like the toxins and like all like that those like um like pathogens coming out of your body. I was like, "Whoa, so this is totally real. Because when I first got into lymphatic drainage, I was such a skeptic. I'm like, again, like I remember I saw it on like you know Instagram, like always how we see things.

Scott Groves  9:02  
Right, right.

Bailie Sloan  9:02  
It's like so when I first saw it, I'm like, this is like some like wannabe like Instagram model, like hoity toity, like like fake fat loss like treatment, and I'm like, I totally was like skeptical to it. And then I heard about it enough times for my own personal like health and like wellness problems that I had that I begrudgingly tried it. And of course, even then, even like experiencing it the first time, I was like, eh, I think it's true, but maybe not. I think it's all my own

Scott Groves  9:22  
placebo. It's all in your head.

Bailie Sloan  9:23  
Exactly. So I went back to back, and then I got brutally sick, and that's when I was like, "Whoa, this is like totally real. So then I had to learn how to space it out appropriately. Big things people like like kind of pitfalls people fall into is like not drinking enough fluid. If you don't get enough water and hydration in your body, there's nowhere for it to really go. So things like that, I kind of learned the hard way. And I think too, the first time I got one you know some drinks, like some whiskey or whatever. Alcohol is one of the worst things that you can do. So I totally did not listen to like the post-op kind of care, so to speak. Right. So I paid for it like dearly after that.

Scott Groves  9:50  
Yeah, you you only come off a juice cleanse and then have like a cheeseburger. That will that'll actually real bad.

Bailie Sloan  9:54  
Yeah. So I stress I stress my body out like way too hard the first time that I got one done. That to me was almost like that kind of shock value of like whoa. Learn the hard way of like this, like actually works.

Scott Groves  10:02  
You know, we had this happen sadly in our jujitsu studio this Sunday. Just the importance of like what we're putting our body. Yeah, good friend of mine came to jujitsu, hungover, had been doing like a wedding party the day before, and he's like, "I'm just gonna work out for like 45 minutes because I actually have the wedding to go to today. Yeah, so super hot in there. You know, it's like a swamp in our jujitsu studio on Sundays. 45 minutes in, he got put in a chokehold. Guy did nothing inappropriate. He tapped. He got up, but just the stress, like the fight or flight in his body, he seized out. And so he had a had a seizure, was foaming from the mouth. It was terrifying. It was the first time I had I saw somebody in person having a seizure. So scary. And the paramedics walked in, and like no sense of urgency. They're just kind of meandering in. I'm like, hey, a little sense of urgency here. The guy's like, had a seizure. He's like, nah, we see this like once a day, man. In Vegas, people get dehydrated, their sodium levels are off. Then they go do a physical activity and they have the seizure. It happened to that guy over there last week. We were, you know, in our full kit working in the sun, and he hadn't drink enough fluids. You know, his lymphatic system is probably all out of whack. He just dropped to the ground and started to have his seizure. So luckily, I went and saw my buddy at the hospital. He's totally fine. Everything's going to be all right. A little bit of short-term memory loss because his body just shut down. But it's crazy when like the the levels in your body are off. There there can be like dire consequences, right?

Bailie Sloan  11:17  
Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, I think what there's kind of common pitfalls people might fall into. Like you mentioned too, like alcohol, not saying not staying hydrated, not nothing like potassium or like electrodes in your system. I think like the more stress you put on your body, the more aggressively it's going to respond to things. So it's like you put yourself through like something like a lymphatic drainage treatment, and you don't come in like prepared, or you just like really abuse yourself before and after. Like there's going to be some consequences, you know, some more harshly than others. Don't want to scare anybody, but like you know you're not going to die. But but you may feel kind of crummy. You're like run a slight beater the next day when all that's like again those pathogens that like waste coming out of your body. If you don't stay hydrated or give your body like adequate downtime, the more stress you put in your body, it's gonna freak out.

Scott Groves  11:52  
So can I kind of think of this as kind of like an oil change for your fluid system in your body?

Bailie Sloan  11:58  
Yeah, absolutely.

Scott Groves  11:59  
Okay, I I know people find you a lot of times because of the Instagram models because of the exactly you know I'm going to a pool party I just want my stomach to look a little bit sculpted but how else do people find you like why do why do people fall into lymphatic lymphatic massage treatment whatever we're calling it sorry oh the treatment yeah yeah the treatment like why why do people fall into lymphatic treatment like how how do they find you, and then like why do they go the first time, and then why do they keep coming back?

Bailie Sloan  12:26  
Sure, that's a great question. So I think it's really cool how like it's almost like that kind of again that overlap of like who we cater to. So I also we get like you know the Instagram models, you know women that are going to go on vacation, they want to look good in a bikini, girls are going out in Vegas. So it's more like that esthetic side of things. So that's great because there also is a place for that. If you want to look your best, be defined. Come on in. That's what we're here for. But it's also more of like that niche, like I said, kind of boutique wellness of people that are really in tune with how their body operates. You know, I think a lot of people will fall into lymphatic drains and they find it kind of how I did, where it's like you know something is not right within your body. Maybe you've gone traditional doctors. They tell you it's all in your head. Your blood looks fine. You know, you're fine. Try to relax. Drink our water. What are you doing?

Scott Groves  13:01  
Call me in the morning.

Bailie Sloan  13:02  
Exactly. I think that was that was my personal experience, and I think a lot of people would get frustrated where you're like, I know, like maybe I'm not diagnosed with like a disease. I don't have cancer. I don't have X, Y, or Z. But I don't feel well every day. Like that fatigue, that bloating, just like that feeling kind of sluggish, and it's like not good every day. Obviously, it really impacts like how you go about your day to life and kind of like your perspective on things, so I think a lot of people fall into more of like the boutique side of things. Maybe like a functional medicine doctor. Maybe you see like a chiropractor, somebody who has like more of like a holistic or like a nutritionist viewpoint. And I think a lot of those professionals kind of guide their clients towards, hey, maybe you should find a lymphatic drainage provider or a studio. And I think part of the reason why I wanted to bring the talks to Vegas or how I got involved with it was on. There really isn't like one kind of keynote lymphatic drainage provider in Vegas. So like back to my personal experience about how the first person I went to, you know, this was a woman who was very skilled. She was like operating out of her you know apartment, kind of like you know independent contractor for sure. And then she ended up leaving Vegas. And so me personally, whenever I would find somebody that I really liked, I feel like they would be in Vegas for maybe like six months to a year, then they would move, relocate, go somewhere else. I was always like on this hamster wheel of trying to find somebody who was like skilled and good at lymphatic drainage. Um, there was never really like one key like like flag flagship studio, if you will, of like lymphatic drainage. Um, so when I saw the talks, like us, all we offer is just lymphatic drainage. Um, it's like the one stop shop really for everybody, whether or not you're man, woman, want that kind of like one-off experience of like I don't look good for like you know my my out this tonight or like you know a vacation I have coming up or for somebody who's like been frustrated of like I'm not feeling great I don't know where else to go my doctor told me to look into this like where do I go you know who who provides the service um that really is what the talks is we're like a one stop shot for everybody and I think really cater to both of those like segments of the market of like people who want to look good, but also people who are frustrated with how they feel and they they they want to start somewhere, but they don't know where, like as far as like how to like just feel better overall.

Scott Groves  14:49  
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Bailie Sloan  16:02  
I think it's definitely catching on. Because whenever I get a lot of people, a lot of clients that do come in, I'm always asking them like, "Oh, look, how did you hear about us? Is it your first lymphatic treatment? I think like probably like nine out of 10 clients that we do get, it is their first time. You know, a lot of us see us on Instagram, they see us on TikTok, and they see the hype, and they're like, "Okay, I'm curious. I want to come and try it. But then a lot of our clientele, Of people who like you know have like more of like the viewpoint or beliefs like I do of seeing like a functional non traditional like MD doctor, but then I do that on people that come in. They're like, "Hey, my flat out my doctor told me to come and try one. So I went on Google, I found you guys, and like now I'm here. So I think it's slowly starting to catch on. I think people's perspectives of on like health and wellness overall are changing. Yeah, you know, I think maybe like five tenish years ago when I first got into lymphatic drainage, like simple things like you know nobody was talking about like seed oils, inflammatory, artificial sweeteners. Those are all kind of more, I guess, think kind of fringe conspiracy theorists of like, oh yeah, astragams gonna give us all cancer. Yeah, whatever, buddy. Like people kind of brush it off. Now I think it's more of like the everyday lingo and something that the zeitgeist people are talking about, like how they feel overall of like I'm feeling inflamed. You know, autoimmune conditions. People are talking about more openly and like freely. I definitely think it's that mindset or that viewpoint of like again like wellness versus traditional medicine is beginning to catch on a bit more. I think a lot of doctors are more open to like these microlistic approaches.

Scott Groves  17:12  
Yeah, I I've told this story before, so if you've listened to other podcasts, sorry, you're gonna have to hear it again. But I injured my hamstring and started hearing from all the bros at the jujitsu studio, especially the UFC guys. They're like, "Peptides, peptides, peptides. And so I called my PA and I was like, "Hey, this is kind of the bro science I'm getting. I tore my hamstring. It didn't like snap off the bone, but it's like it's pretty bad. Well, peptides work like BPC 157 and TB 500. And she's like, "Look, I don't want to get into the whole conspiracy theory, but you can't hurt yourself with peptides. You can't take enough of them. And sure enough, an injury that I had had previously when I was much thinner, much younger, when I was 21, yeah, that took me like six months to get over. I think I was back on the mats in like under 60 days, maybe maybe 30 days, because it just it helped the recovery. So I, I think you, I think you're right that like alternative sources of like feeling well and wellness are just way more in the public zeitgeist than they were five years ago.

Bailie Sloan  18:05  
Absolutely, and to me, it's more of like those lifestyle choices, right? Like you can get a lymphatic drainage, like you don't need a prescription for it. There's no, it's not like a medical procedure, so to speak. It's really just like your lifestyle choices, and I always like to think of like practical measures you can take to maintain and improve like your overall like wellness and like your well being versus like jumping into something like getting on a pill, taking a prescription, getting a medical medical procedure done. You know, there's definitely more practical ways to go about it. I think a lot of doctors and like medical professionals are more open minded to like this like line of like thinking. Look with us because the same thing. I take peptides too. I think they're great. They like a huge healing recovery system behind them. Like I take BPC personally. I take the TB 500. Like all these things. Like there's definitely like a time and place for them, you know, where appropriate.

Scott Groves  18:41  
So, for the person that's maybe skeptical, has either talks as an organization, since you guys are a franchise or some other body done any like scientific work? Like, is there is there known benefits other than the esthetics? Like, right, you like you get out a bunch of the wastewater, so you look slimmer, you look better. Look, I mean, I don't know that I would look at in bikini, but somebody does. But has there been any research or science on like, hey, here are some of the other benefits post that 24 hour. Hey, you're gonna feel you're gonna feel a little rough because all this junk is coming out of your system. Yeah. But like, are there known benefits post one of these treatments?

Bailie Sloan  19:15  
Yeah, I definitely think one of the biggest like known benefits is like gut health. So like, you know, a lot of people who struggle with like you know irregularity, bloating. Um, I'll see if the bloat causes a lot of that retention in like your midsection to where you again you like for a lot of women in particular you you be you think you look like you're pregnant, which I know I used to struggle with that. Um, so like gut health definitely being more regular, um, having your digestive system work you know more smoothly, less bloating, less water retention. Um, definitely improved gut health and then better immunity as well. I think a lot of people find that, like you know, certain times of the year, um, you know, when once the weather gets kind of chilly in the fall, I think a lot of people struggle with, like, you know, stomach bugs, that time of the year, flu, COVID, things like that. Um, a lot of people who get regular lymphatic drainage treatments still see improved immunity, getting sick less frequently, just feeling better overall. That's definitely like a very, um, like well known, um, I guess like side effect, if you will, of. Competitive drainage treatment, so I got benefit behind

Scott Groves  20:01  
it. I'm gonna make a calendar reminder to come see you guys like next April or May because it might be allergies, it might be hay fever. I don't know what is, but something since moving to Vegas, I have gotten sick every year. Right when the weather changes, when it starts to heat out, I don't know what gets released into the air, or my body's like now sweating more, so it's getting air junk out. I don't know what happens, but the last five years, I've gotten like pretty for for my standards, pretty unhealthy, and like just feeling like shit for like 30 days. And then about right now, mid June, mid July, it goes away, and I get used to it. But it's like I'm gonna I'm putting on my calendar. Come see you guys like end of April, beginning of May when it starts to get really hot here, because something just messes up my system badly, so I don't know if any of you all more vitamins come to talks for a treatment. But I gotta use something because I can't I can't feel like shit once a year for 30 days.

Bailie Sloan  20:50  
Yeah, it's so true that I think when I first moved to Vegas too, like I think people who move here are also like a melting pot here in Vegas. Like I grew up originally in like the Midwest, like Buffalo area originally is where my family's from. But I grew up I spent some time in high school in the Houston area, so very different like climates, right? Very moist, very humid. Then move out to the desert, totally different landscape. And I'm like, what is going on out here? Those first couple of years, I got hard by like seasonal allergies, like that kind of head cold congestion. Like like in Vegas, it's like very common. People have like that kind of stomach bug that goes around constantly, almost like a fake food poisoning feeling. I've definitely noticed, like me personally, getting regular lymphatic drainage treatments again. I'm not gonna say like we cure anything, but I've noticed like my own personal stuff. Like my allergies have subsided significantly. So I've got stubborn kind of head cold. You constantly want to blow your nose. That's alleviated like tremendously in my own personal experience.

Scott Groves  21:35  
Nice. So I got to hear about your story because you're obviously a very unique person. Like I said, you walked in here. You walked in here, and my son was like, "What the heck? Like this? This is a strong woman. So tell us about your journey, health, fitness, where you got to, and why you personally found lymphatic.

Bailie Sloan  21:51  
Sure. So I was definitely with somebody growing up. I was like one of the boys. I played like every sport imaginable as like a girl growing up, and I think it was cool because I was definitely very different, and that I always wanted to be like martial to be my own drum, so to speak. So remember, as a girl, I was like, I want to play football when I get older. So like middle school and high school, I remember that the football team was like, well, we don't take girls, but the wrestling team does. So I got into wrestling in high school. I played like wrestling, water polo in high school, which were very like unusual sports. I was very stubborn. I didn't want to be the girl who played volleyball or swim. I was, I want to be different, right? So, like wrestling and water polo were like my two main sports in high school. Love them, and I played my hand, of course, like you know, track, softball. I tried all the things, right? But like wrestling and water polo were my two kind of sports I took to the most, and I was the best at. And then when I went to Cornell, I actually ended up walking on the rowing team. So again, very unique, very different sports. Most people are like water polo. I think it's funny people ask, like, "Oh, did the horses get in the water? They're like, yeah, varsity crew. What's my crew? Like, what is that? People, people are so like out of tune about these sports that I played growing up. So like, it was always this very again, always always wanted to be unique. But I walked on the crew team at Cornell. So crew, if you don't know, is like very intense. It's like that really hard crossover of like aerobic and anaerobic. You got to be strong, and you have to have really good conditioning. So

Scott Groves  23:01  
rowing is brutal. Yeah, just go jump on, go jump on a rowing machine and try to do like 2000 meters, and you will feel like you want to die.

Bailie Sloan  23:08  
Yeah, it's horrible. The 2000 meter chest. Oh, I get like a PTSD whenever I hear that. Like I get to chill down my spine. I'm like, oh no, not those. But yeah, crew was brutal in sport in college for me. On so yeah, super competitive my whole life, very like goal-oriented person, love sports, very athletic. I would say, but what's funny is I feel like even given like my like height, like I'm somewhere between like 595, 10 on a good day at Cornell D1 rowing standards. I was like a total shrimp. I was always 22. It wasn't until more recently I became more muscular, got getting into bodybuilding. By the time I was maybe like 130, 140, so pretty skinny given my overall like size. Um, I always like to say I was like tiny, but like mighty,

Scott Groves  23:46  
like a world class rower. Even at the female level, is like six foot, 161, 70, yeah, like that. Yeah,

Bailie Sloan  23:52  
big,

Scott Groves  23:52  
big girl,

Bailie Sloan  23:53  
big bruising. Wasn't that kind of rugby body type? Yeah. Um, so I was definitely small by rowing standards, but I held my own. I like to think. Um, so when I graduated, I was like, you know, like a lot of people, like you know, former athlete. You're like, what do I do with myself now? What kind of loss? I was like, I don't really know what I want to do. Was going to the gym, kind of going through the motions. I'm like, I don't really know like what I want to do like next, right? On and I graduated school year early, so I moved out here. I was 21, so of course, you know, you get roped in kind of the party scene a little bit, having fun, you know, exploring, feeling myself You know, going through like the kind of life adjustment post college, um, and then that's probably about when like a lot of like my wellness and like health problems started to begin. Like I said, I was tall, skinny, um, not like uh physically like menacing like body size, but you know, fit. And I remember at the time I was always just really just kind of bloated, had like stomach problems, like a lot of women go through, right? So I feel like I was tall, skinny, like a bloated, just kind of big belly, and I'm like, okay, I don't know what's going on. This is like a new phenomenon for me. Like, what's going on? He said, "I was in college. What's happening? Well, maybe

Scott Groves  24:47  
Vegas at 21 probably leads to some unhealthy habits. Sorry, what you guessed. I, I, I would, I would not have survived Vegas at 21. I didn't have the discipline. Testosterone was too high. I would have, I would have a lot of problems living here then, but. Yeah, yeah, to

Bailie Sloan  25:01  
some extent,

Speaker 2  25:01  
right.

Bailie Sloan  25:02  
But basically, you know, I wasn't feeling good, and I was like, a lot of people started to see some doctors. I'm like, hey, like my stomach hurts all the time. I feel bloated. Like this doesn't look normal. I don't feel great. Like I'm pretty in tune with how my body responds to things. This to me is like abnormal. Most doctors I went to were like, oh yeah, it's all in your head. Drink more water. Your blood works fine. Like it's it's all in your head. And I'm like I know some of my heads that just don't feel great, and then eventually I went to a GI doctor who was like, "Oh, well, you know, maybe you have like colon cancer. And I'm like, "Damn, like we escalated that pretty quickly. Like I'm complaining that my stomach hurts, and you're going to throw out colon cancer, and that you know scared me. I was like, I think I was like 22 at that time, um, and you know, like a lot of people, I think a doctor kind of throws something out there that kind of scares you. And I don't want to bad talk doctors, but you know, did kind of rattle me. And they're like, "Oh, you need a colonoscopy. We think we need to like you know cauterous part of your colon and all this. And so you know, I went for it because you know you're scared. I did it, and then afterwards got put on all these different like you know GI medications, and honestly just felt worse after that. And I was like, "What am I even doing? Like I went into this doctor, had this procedure done. Now I feel worse. I don't like how I'm looking anymore at the time too. I look back now with those myself in my early 20s. I got to see how swollen my face was, and I always thought like I had like you know a baby face, make a lot of baby fat. Looking back now, I'm like, no, that was just inflammation in my face. I saw just how swollen like my midsection in my face was, and I'm like, I don't like the way that I look. I was feeling discouraged. I'm like, what else am I going to do from like an athletic perspective? So that's when I got the idea of oh, I want to be like a bodybuilder I'm like a bikini competitor, so I'm like maybe that will be like the outlet of what I need to like kind of satisfy like my athletic like longing that I have right now. I can change how that I feel about the way that I look. That's the avenue that I want to go down. So I ended up getting on with a team out here based out of based out here in Vegas. I was going to make a run for a bikini competition, and I felt so bad for my first coach. I know I was probably like her most nightmarish client. Where like every week my check-ins, like my weight just these huge fluctuations. Like I know I'm tall, but I would swing like five, 710, pounds a week. Like this, you could see it like my my phone. I'm like, what's going on here? Like my stomach problems, like my waistline would change tremendously. And this coach I had was like, something is definitely wrong at a deeper level that these doctors are just not picking up on that, we're not able to kind of coach you through. She's like, in my opinion, you really should look into like a functional medicine doctor and get some lymphatic drainage treatment.

Scott Groves  27:07  
Because at this point, if you're getting ready for a bikini modeling competition, it's like you're measuring macros down to the gram. Like you know exactly what's going in your body. So fluctuating seven or 10 pounds-that's a big deal. It's not your

Speaker 3  27:18  
deal. It's

Scott Groves  27:19  
not you're going to gain seven pounds of fat, or lose seven pounds of fat, gain seven pounds of muscle in a week.

Bailie Sloan  27:23  
Exactly. Then it gets in your head. You're like, "Oh my god, what's going on? Am I crazy? Like, I feel horrible. So again, almost like this hamster wheel I was stuck on. So I begrudgingly was like, "All right, I've heard this a couple times. Like lymphatic drainage. Like my coach told me to look into it. Went to the functional doctor who was like, 'Yeah, I think you could benefit from that. So long story short, yeah, ended up finding a provider or a woman out here who worked at her apartment for the first couple months out here in Vegas. Um, started to see her had a heavy experience out of the gate. Like I said, got sick, was dealing with that. And then the doctor I was seeing at the time was like, "Well, we should run some like more into like um deeper testing on you. Turns out I had like black mold exposure, like a lot of like intolerance to like different like pesticides, you know, kind of like those forever chemicals we all hear about. I feel I had some really intensive like blood and urinalysis work done to see all the different pathogens and things that were like hanging out in my body. So with a lot of like like preservatives, pesticides, a lot of chemical exposure. Again, black mold I was exposed to. I had a lot of like GI, like like fungal, like candida, things like that. There was a lot going on in my body. I'm like, well, no wonder why I feel like crap every day. Yeah. So you're basically

Scott Groves  28:23  
infested with like mold and stuff.

Bailie Sloan  28:25  
Exactly. And I feel like things like that, like a traditional doctor doesn't always like test for. Um, and I found out the hard way too when I had like a blood analysis done that like me personally, I have this gene that basically makes it difficult or like impossible for my body to naturally detoxify mold. So types of so things like that again on more of like the boutique medicine and wellness you know your traditional doctor's not going to look for but can easily explain why you just feel kind of like shitty every day yeah um so I went down like a year long detox protocol got regular lymphatic drainage treatments I I was going gosh like weekly for like a year and a half two years of my life whoa came out of this I felt like a completely different person like almost like every problem I felt like I had of like low energy at the time too. I remember I was again like my early 20s. I was sleeping like 10, 1214, hours a day. Was just so tired. I'm like, why do I feel just like lethargic all the time? Also going to Cornell, like I was in like no sleep mode for like three years, right? I was burning through like two, three hours of sleep. Going to rowing practice, I felt fine. I was pushed through. Then I come out of this. I'm like, why am I sleeping like 14, like 15 hours a day? Sometimes I just feel miserable. Like on top of all the GI issues that I had, that this is swelling, water retention is feeling bloated all the time. I'm like, I'm still crummy. And I'll see when I had like my blood work done. Like my hormone panel was far from ideal. I remember like my thyroid was like not ideal. Again, a lot of like kind of like warning signs were all there. When did this detox protocol? Got regular lymphatic drainage treatments, and it was like me personally, like almost like everything fell into place. My hormones balanced out significantly better. My kidney function improved. My thyroid function improved. Like my energy became better. Like I just feel it's like good now. I'm like I kind of came out of this, and I was looking back. I was like, man, is this like. Everyone else feels like like I've been missing out the whole time. Like I can sleep like seven hours a day and like get out of bed and feel normal the next day. Feel productive. Like have better energy. Like gut problems went away. Like my hormones balanced out as a woman. My skin cleared up. Like my hair started to grow like thicker and like better overall. My nails like everything just became just better. And it wasn't just in my own perspective. Like you know I would see like my hairdresser, the girl who does my eyelashes, my like my nail ladies, and they're like, they're like, everything's growing quicker on you. Like, what are you doing? Are you taking biotin? Like, what have you been up to lately? Like, I felt like it wasn't just me. People around me confirmed it too. My energy was better. Just feeling this great overall day to day, and that's all. Even the changes in the gym. Like, I felt like I was getting frustrated before. Where like trying to like put on muscle was like a nightmare. My body was like again this tall, skinny. Never really was like this big, like menacing, like like Muslim mommy that I wanted to be, right? Right. I was like, why can't I get stronger? Gosh darn it! So I go into the gym, like post like this detox and lymphatic experience that I had, and I felt like I got leaner, I got bigger, I got stronger. I felt like I was actually seeing the changes in the body that I actually wanted to make out of the gate, like years ago. I'm like, wow, that's what I needed that this whole time was this detox. Like my body was just so stressed that no matter what I was doing, it was just going to push back regardless. That's why I felt like the harder I pushed and I cut into caloric deficit and cardio, the more inflamed I got.

Bailie Sloan  31:10  
And I was like, this is so incredibly frustrating. Now it's like if I make changes where like I let's say I go through like a four to six week little diet, clean you know clean up cut. Now my body responds better. I want to put on muscle. I go through a building phase. My body responds better. It's like it's almost like the body is like actually doing what's designed to do now. So

Scott Groves  31:27  
that's wild. You know, it's it's kind of weird hearing you tell this story because just in the last couple years, I'm in this group called Front Row Dads. So it's like yeah, three 400 of us that are like we get together pretty regularly and we go deep pretty fast because the group's made for business owners yeah that are dads that want to be dads first, so their tagline is like dads who are business owners, not business owners who are you know trying to make time to be dads. Yeah, and the amount of stories I've heard of people working themselves and basically you know just years of inflammation, and it's either led to Lyme disease or early onset, you know, self induced diabetes, or one guy has like aluminum poisoning, and another guy has like a bunch of guys have had this mold problem living in Austin, Texas, where like rains a lot and then it's hot. Rains a lot, then it's hot. That a bunch of them have been infected with mold. It's like this is so common. I think where people are just running on empty and they don't even know it. You know, it's like like me living off a nicotine and caffeine. I'm just like, there's probably something in my body that I need to get rid of because it's like, yeah, you get you get tired, and it's like, oh, I'm just getting older, I'm getting this, and it's like, no, there might be something off that we need to get out of your body.

Bailie Sloan  32:29  
Absolutely, I feel like there's so many kind of like ailments and complaints people have just like adjusted or they've like almost like accepted. Well, this is just how it is. Like as a woman, this is just how it is. Like certain times of the month, I just swell up enormously, and like I can't even get out of bed. I feel so bloated. I feel disgusting. Like my stomach hurts, and like you know, I feel so low energy. And the seasonal allergies is kick my ass every year, and this and that. And like the lethargy, low energy. I'm tired. It's too much screen time. It's like I feel like everyone has grown accustomed to like accepting these things. When in reality, it's like life could be so much better. We could all just feel so much better if we like learn to take care of ourselves better at a deeper level. Again, the fundamentals: staying hydrated, proper rest, minimizing your stress, detoxifying your body, getting regular lymphatic drainage treatments, and doing whatever you know works best for you. Sunlight, walking, going to the gym, whatever passion or like fitness calling that you have is taking care of your body and giving yourself what you feel like you need. Really, just translate inside and out to how you feel in your day to day life.

Scott Groves  33:20  
So Val, who does a lot of our Instagram content, and she's a stud. Like she lifts way more weight than me, even though she's only 130 pounds jujitsu black belt. She came into your studio for a treatment, and she was really impressed. And she talked a little bit about to me about kind of the the pre work you give them, the post work they give them. So it's like, yeah, it's not just the two hour treatment that you're doing on site, like what are the other things you recommend for people coming out of that, so that they get like the most out of the treatment?

Bailie Sloan  33:47  
Oh my gosh! Well, the biggest one is hydration. I cannot emphasize that enough. I feel like all my friends and family like definitely make fun of me for being such a critical like water like police monitor for everybody. Everyone always convinces themselves, especially in Vegas. Oh, I drink so much water. I'm so hydrated. When I spend a day with these people, I'm like, you don't drink anything. Like, what are you talking about? I feel like everybody has like a glass of water. Maybe they refill their tumbler like once in the day, and they give themselves that they're hydrated. Like, no, you need so much more water than that. So, if you're living in Vegas, if you live an active lifestyle and you're losing so much perforation, like I know, like I carry a sand like a lot of people, that 40 ounce water tumbler, I will refill that like 456, Times a day, like you need so much more water than what you think. Just being a normal human being living out here, then don't feel lymphatic drainage treatment. It's especially critical. So I always say, like, you want to come in hydrated. But the thing about hydration is, it really is dependent on what you drank the day before. So if you want to be really hydrated on Monday, you want to think about how much fluid you're drinking on Sunday. So Sunday, that day before, you want to drink as much as you possibly can. We're almost kind of like waterlogg your system to help get like a proper hydration level. That way, the next day when you wake up, you know you have your morning pee, you're good to go. Um, you want to again come in hydrated, but refrain from drinking like immediately that first hour before you come in, because obviously we're gonna be pressing on your midsection. So if you drink like a ton just before you walk in the door, your bladder's gonna get full. It's gonna get uncomfortable. So yeah. Coming hydrated, but not the day of. And people think of hydration as like the morning of they drink a lot. I'm like, no, you're thinking about drinking the day before, and then afterwards, just drink as much as you possibly can. So whenever you get like a lymphatic drainage treatment, your system's active and stimulated for the next 72 hours, so like three days. So you want to think about drinking as much hydration and fluid and eating clean those next three days. The way to think about it is like also your body is a well-oiled machine. It's designed to do what it's designed to do. So the more building blocks and resources you can give it to do its natural healing processes, it's going to do its thing. You want to put the least amount of stress and throw the throw in the least amount of curveballs possible. So if you get a lymphatic drainage treatment, you don't want to the next day go out and rip it up and drink and consume consume Lord only knows what. Don't stress your body out. So avoid like processed foods, excess of caffeine, alcohol. I'm out. All those exactly, all those things that stress your body out. Like, please refrain for the next like 72 hours. So, like you know, and you know your body knows better than anybody else. You know what you respond to, what carb sources, protein sources like resonate with your body. Think about eating and consuming the things that your body likes and avoiding things that are universally inflammatory. So again, like excess of caffeine, drinking processed foods, artificial like sweeteners, sugars, things like that. The more building blocks of resources, again, clean food, proper hydration, get some good rest. Your body is going to heal itself tremendously. Even a little bit of cardio afterwards too. Me personally, I'm a big weightlifter. Obviously, I try to get in a lift that morning or the day prior. Then afterwards, take it easy. If anything, do a little bit of cardio. Hanging out on like a red light or like a sauna to help kind of promote that you know flow in your body of moving all that fluid will help a lot too.

Scott Groves  36:34  
So I have a question about water because depending on depending on what you read, it's like oh yeah, 100 ounces of tap water, fine. And then it's like, no, that'll kill you. And then you read something else, and it's like, no, you have to have some type of mineral or element water or something to mix into it. And then you read another study, and it's like, no, no, no, that's overkill. You're retaining water because you have too much magnesium, too much sodium. It's like, okay. And then you read something else. It's like just a pinch of salt. Then you read something else. It's just like there's so much conflicting stuff out there. So when when you talk about being the water police, like is it like water police with like two pinches of Himalayan salt? Is it like do you like some of those powders like Element or something like that? Like

Bailie Sloan  37:10  
yeah, I love Element.

Scott Groves  37:10  
Okay, when you drink water, like what do you drink? Because I want to look like you. So what? Tell me tell me what kind of water to drink. Maybe not the blonde hair, but

Bailie Sloan  37:17  
well, just the cleanest water source possible. That was one thing I fell into. Like one trick that I fell or pitfall I fell into out of the gate in Vegas was I remember when the first home that I bought out here I didn't have a water filtration system, so then when I I was just drinking the regular old tap water out of my house and I got blood work done and the doctor was like oh you're like five basis points away from kidney failure I'm like oh shoot how that happened like it's the Vegas water so I had to get one of those like osmosis like water filtration systems in my home you don't anything crazy about encouraging everybody to go out and spend like 10 grand on like a fancy osmosis salt whatever system in your home. But it's like about clean water sources. So whether or not people even drink like the bottled the Fiji essential essential water or whatever it is, just clean water sources. Just please do not drink the tap water in Vegas. Okay, but I think even like a

Scott Groves  37:56  
big just like a normal Britto water filter. Does it do enough to get like the tap water junk out.

Bailie Sloan  38:01  
In my opinion, no.

Scott Groves  38:02  
Okay,

Bailie Sloan  38:03  
not a doctor, but in my opinion, no. I should.

Scott Groves  38:05  
How much do I need to spend if I want like a decent water filtration system so I'm not making ice cubes with toxins in them? Yeah, because I eat a lot of ice. Yo, you do. Yeah, it's bad.

Bailie Sloan  38:13  
Yeah, that'll get you too. That was one thing I did not realize when to Mexico one time a couple years ago. It's only don't drink the water, but I drink a lot of pina coladas and then I paid for it.

Scott Groves  38:19  
Yeah, the the ice the ice will get you. So, how much is like a decent, you know, water filtering system?

Bailie Sloan  38:25  
Shoot, I want to say the one in my home, and I live in a you know three story home in Vegas. On the water, the water filtration system that I bought in my home was about a $3,000 a month. So, you know, a couple grand. I mean, you don't have to break the bank, and obviously, everyone's system is different. But even if you don't want to have one in your own home, like a you know, basic like a filtration system, some type of filtration stuff in your home beyond a Sabrina, something that's gonna take out all the heavy, like again, like the metals, the um, like the chlorine and like our water supply out here. Or if you're sticking a straight bottled water in Vegas, you know that's great too. Um, everyone's got their preference again, like the Fijis, Ascencia water, you know, whatever type of water that you like. But then, um, me personally, I always hear a lot of people say like a rule of thumb is like half your body weight in ounces. Okay, personally, I drink at least my body weight in ounces, especially if you are physically active. Obviously, me going to the gym, I probably drink like double my body weight in ounces a day.

Scott Groves  39:08  
Double your body weight in gasses.

Bailie Sloan  39:09  
Well, I think a lot of doctors and people would say that's overkill. So you know everyone's, but again, you know your body better than anybody else. Me, I know my body temperature runs warm. Like I'm the type of person. If I go, you know, back home to see my grandparents in Buffalo, New York in the winter time. I'm in like shorts, flip flops, tank top, and the average person is like, "What's wrong with her? I just run warm, and I know because of that, I sweat a lot more. I go to the gym, like even no cardio's leg day. I'm pouring buckets, so you know I know that. I know my body. So therefore, because of that, I overcompensate on the water, and that's what feels good. If I drink only my body weight in ounces a day, I wake up in the middle of night like I'm dying of thirst right now, but to the average person or somebody else, maybe that isn't enough. So everyone knows their own body differently, but I would say at least your body weight announces a day. Um, and then also the elements I really like a lot too. Okay, I would say like any type of like electrolytes that you do like. You know, there's so many out there. Me personally, I try to stay away from the ones that have a too too much like sucralose or again those artificial sweeteners. Some people. Or like unaffected by them, great. Me personally, I swell up like a freaking balloon. No,

Scott Groves  40:04  
I need all the I need the sugar free, filler free, all that stuff. The element makes a version of it that I like. But I super

Bailie Sloan  40:10  
clean.

Scott Groves  40:10  
It's funny about knowing your body because I found if I'm doing an hour and a half of jujitsu in the morning, I need almost exactly a gallon of water because like if I if I drink about a half gallon to start the day when I'm working out, and then a half gallon the rest of the day. Like I feel great. I eat less shitty food. Helps me track my calories better. Like I feel so much better. Yeah. And on the days that I either miss a workout or I just don't stick to that plan-too much caffeine, too much iced tea, a diet coke-yeah-I just feel gross by like 9o'clock. Like just absolutely gross. Same. Yeah. So the the the especially in Vegas, man. I don't understand how people don't do drink water out here.

Bailie Sloan  40:44  
That's why I'm with the water police. All my friends and family, I'm like, drink water. I'm like yelling at everybody out. I'm at the restaurant, and whenever the waiter comes, like, do you need more water? My family would be like, no, and I'm like, yes, refill everybody, like right now. Like everybody needs to drink more water because it is true that here was

Scott Groves  40:56  
fun at a dinner party.

Bailie Sloan  40:59  
I'm definitely judging. I'm like, don't be eating that. Don't be drinking this. No alcohol, please, to the table. Yeah, I understand. No, I am.

Scott Groves  41:04  
So, how much has the lymphatic treatment and like the the other alternate wellness stuff that you're going through? How much does that help with the weightlifting? Like, because you're you're a thick girl, obviously. Yeah. Like, how much? How much? How much the age? That's a good word. How much? How much time do you put into like physical fitness, and then how much time do you put into recovery? Because I I see a lot of people at the jujitsu gym that want to be high level competitors, and it's like they're training with like injured ankles and this. And I'm like, I try to tell the young guys, I'm like, trust me, take it from a 47 year old that wishes I would have taken care of my body better when I was younger because my back hurts, my hips hurt, my shoulders probably blown out, I'm like, there's no shame in recovery. So, like, how how do you gage that on the amount of time that you're spending on treatments and like recovery versus how much time you're in the gym just like powerlifting 1000 pound press or whatever the heck you did today? Like, what what does your training schedule look like?

Bailie Sloan  41:55  
I'm definitely not afraid of taking rest days. I think it's one of those ego things people like. No rest days, the more the better. But like, you'll find out at some point in your life that that only goes so far. So like for me, I spent gosh the last probably like two years really just lifting heavy, trying to. So I started out in bikini, and my goal is I was really want to compete in figure competitions. So I'll say it's a very different body type, a lot more muscle, need a lot more size. So the last two years that I've been feeling so much better, I'm like, let's just go for it. I want to lift like six days a week, put on muscle, and I did. I put on probably gosh like 4045, pounds overall in like the course of like two years, maybe closer to 50 on a good day. So like I put on some serious eyes quickly, but you know what comes along with that? When you start doing, you start out pretty skinny like I did. I started like two years. Oh my god, my shoulder hurts! My shoulder hurts. Finally went to like a rehab facility and had some, you know, X-rays and some like professionals look at me. They're like, "Oh yeah, you have a low grade labrum tear. You're gonna run into like muscle, tendon, ligament damage one way, shape, or form. So even if you are putting on muscle and like getting stronger very quickly, like I did, and you're not recovering or doing the things that you need to be doing, like me at the time, I was lifting like six days a week, like one rest day a week, on you know on top of very heavy lifting and just again quick gains. I ran into issues of like getting like ligament, tendon damage on plantar fasciitis in my foot, flared up horribly. I got to the point where the shoulder injury in the lab room was so bad. They're trying to drive, trying to turn my neck. I'm like, oh gosh darn it! Like you know, you're gonna you're gonna face the consequences in some way, shape, or form. So I've been I've done I've been much more much more disciplined about the rest days. So now what works for me is I do like a three-one split, so I'll do like three days in a row. I do like shoulders, legs, back, rest. Shoulders, legs, back, rest. So to me, that three-one split, that's what works for my body. I know some people do like a four-two-one, another one. So it's like they do four days in a row, one day off, two days, one day off. Kind of funky. It gets kind of confusing, which is obviously hard to keep track.

Scott Groves  43:38  
Right, right, right. You know, you already lost me. So yeah,

Bailie Sloan  43:40  
exactly. I had a coach who said, "Trust me, try this, and I'm like, "That's just not working for me. I don't think I'm recovering. So again, back to knowing what works for your body. To me, that three-one split works was best for me. And then I like to rotate. I'll do like a deep tissue massage, and then the following week, do a lymphatic drainage. So I go in there, get a deep tissue massage from somewhere. Me personally, I like IMR massage. They beat me up. They they scrape me until I bleed. I'm like harder, better. Yeah, so I love it. Like to me, I'm like I'm a glutton for punishment when it comes to deep tissue massages. And so obviously, when they do that, all those toxins and free radicals are in your body, so you got to stay hydrated off it again. And then the following week or a couple days afterwards, I did get lymphatic drainage to help kind of really flush all the inflammation and kind of tension in my body out. And to me, that's what's that's been kind of the winning combination for me. So yeah,

Scott Groves  44:23  
do you do any like hot, cold sauna, cold plunge, red light? Do anything like that? Is that like is a big part of recovery for you? Yeah, I

Bailie Sloan  44:29  
like it a lot. Me personally, I love the red light therapy. So like I like to go to other like neighboring businesses that have like infrared saunas. So like on there's a couple of them out here in Vegas. Like a glow on Eastern's a great one. On they have like an infra rasana in there. On yeah, infra rasanas I really like. Saunas themselves are awesome. There's also a lot of like brain and cardiovascular benefits to them. So I'm a big believer. And again, like you mentioned too, like kind of the meathead science. I would say when it comes to like all things like wellness and like health, I feel like the bodybuilder, like the kind of meathead bro science, is usually like so far ahead of the curve that like then later on traditional. Science kind of catches up to me. I feel like obviously the Joe Rogan's of the world. Like, trust me, bro, the sauna. Like, it really does work. It's so good for you. Um, so I love infrared saunas. Um, obviously, I do a lot of lymphatic drainages and in conjunction with deep tissue massages. Um, kind of one two combo punch on there. Um, then at home, like I do like the rebounder kind of jiggle plates for better at home lymphatic care. The dry brushing, gua sha on your face, things like that, to help kind of promote lymphatic drainage in between my sessions, and that made a big difference to me personally.

Scott Groves  45:25  
So you mentioned the bodybuilding community out here, of which I have a few friends that are part of that. Yeah, a lot of that is say not natural, so there there's there's a a lot going into their body to get bigger faster. So does lymphatic treatments help with getting regulation, right? Because like I've got a buddy, he does his blood work like literally once a month because of the amount of stuff that he's on, and that's his personal choice. Wouldn't be for me, but he just wants to be giant and like cool, whatever, whatever floats your boat, bro. So people that are on, let's just say maybe illicit substances for for bodybuilding or fitness, does this help like keep their body regulated, or do you have a lot of people from the bodybuilding community that come to your studio?

Bailie Sloan  46:08  
Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna like name drop anybody or Jacob. I'll say I can't like condone or encourage anything. Don't do courses.

Scott Groves  46:14  
Do do do you do you once you turn 18?

Bailie Sloan  46:17  
Exactly. But I do find that if you take any kind of substances typically, like for some for some people, one of like the side effects is water retention. So by coming in and getting lymphatic drainage treatments, I help. I find that I helps keep the inflammation or the water retention because of those substances at a minimum, or helps like manage those symptoms.

Scott Groves  46:32  
Yeah. Why would my wife want to come see you, for example? So let's say my wife's generally healthy. She's finally working out with Ryan. Shout out to Performance Fitness. She's actually really liking it. Just the other day, she's like, "Oh, Scott, I saw like a definition in my leg that I've never seen before. This little tiny one, but she's like, she's getting the bug. She's getting into it. Like, why would the average gal, my wife, could care less about going to a pool party and looking better in a bikini? But like, maybe she has some challenges around that time of the month or whatnot. Like, what would be the benefit for her? Kind of your your average working mom that's like doing her thing and probably doesn't think a lot about wellness, health, and wellness. Although I wish she would take better care of herself, like most moms, because they're yeah pouring into other people. Like, why would she come see you?

Bailie Sloan  47:15  
I think coming in to see us is again more of like I always I think of it as like one of the components of like your overall like lifestyle of how you take care of yourself. So I think if it comes down to like you mentioned, her she's just starting out in the gym. Getting regular lymphatic drainage treatments are going to help kind of mitigate those effects of like you know your stress, your your muscle stress, your sore, retaining water. I think definitely if you are new in the gym, you're probably going to feel those like kind of side effects or symptoms again of like most of the muscle soreness more severely as somebody who's an advanced lifter. So I think incorporating lymphatic drainage is going to help kind of mitigate those like negative consequences of like being new to fitness out of the gate. That in turn will help make you maybe more motivated in the long term to stick with it. If you're kind of new and like out of the gate, you're like, man, I feel shitty, like I'm sore. This hurts. I'm inflamed. Why am I even doing this? It almost kind of incentivizes you to maybe kind of give up out of the gate. That I feel like having like a proper supplementation and like lifestyle approach out of the gate is going to help kind of keep those negative side effects at a minimum. Would encourage you to be more, I guess, dedicated to it in the long run, so more disciplined. But I think too, it's almost like that approach of: do you want to wait until there's a problem, or do you want to mitigate or preventative maintenance? Is what I always like to say. So if you are somebody, maybe you don't have any like you know horrible ailments out of the gate, or you're like, oh my gosh, I'm just so miserable. Like you know that time of the month and the water retention. I'm bloating. I'm constipated. I'm X, Y, or Z. I think if you can take these steps before you have like horrible consequences, or you before you feel just miserable, it's like that preventative maintenance. For in the long term, you're going to feel better overall. Um, it's kind of like I would say if you are somebody on, if your diet is like lacking in certain areas, which obviously no one's perfect, having a good supplementation protocol is going to help enrich your diet and overall your overall body composition. That way, you're you're probably got a healthier homeostasis again in the beginning versus waiting until there's a problem that arises. If that makes sense, again, more about preventative maintenance. Maybe not the best analogy, but I don't

Scott Groves  48:57  
know. That's that's really good. Yeah,

Bailie Sloan  48:58  
it's preventative maintenance. I like to say it. And again, there's just so many benefits of it, whether or not you see it. So whether you know if you do come in and maybe there's not a big event coming up, but you see those slight changes in your body help kind of mitigate that water retention. Um, you know it's doing something for you, and then in turn again helps improve immunity. So that way, you know, winter comes and goes. You're like, wow, this year I didn't even get sick. I didn't even notice it this year. It's kind of those things where like without you even realizing it, you're doing something good for yourself overall.

Scott Groves  49:22  
I love that. Let's let's switch gears to the business because any business owner I've ever talked to has a very strong opinion about franchises. Yeah, one way or the other, they're either I hate it, I got locked into this horrible contract. Why didn't I just do this on my own? Blah blah blah blah. I've talked to 50% of business owners that feel that way. Yeah, and then 50% is like this is awesome. The franchise takes care of us. They take care of all the brand stuff, and I don't even have to worry about it. I can just focus on running my business and like generating clients and caring for my clients. So, how did you pit talks? Why did you decide? Why did you decide to do a franchise instead of you know be be the gal that like is working out of her apartment as a contractor? Like, how did that journey start with having those conversations and deciding, like, oh, I want to be part of a franchise, and this is the one for me?

Bailie Sloan  50:07  
Sure. So I was definitely somebody who, again, went to Cornell. I worked in corporate finance out of the gate, sort of for one of the major casino companies out here. And very quickly, like early on in my life, I was like, again, 21. I was like, college teaches you how to be a good employee. What they don't teach you is whether or not being an employee is the right fit for your lifestyle. So I went to Cornell, Breezy School, graduated a year early, was like a straight A student, got a good job out of college, and like three, four months in, I was like, I absolutely do not want to do this. Like I looked around at the cubicle lifestyle. So all these people who just looked horrible, miserable, hated their jobs, hated their life. I was like, I do not want to be that person at like 35. Like I'm 21 now, I'm getting out. So I ended up getting out of the corporate gig pretty early on, which is like a bold move to make. Um, didn't really know what I wanted to do, so I ended up bouncing into hospitality, the waitressing, the bottle service. You know, did that for a short period of time of my life, and I was like, I want to figure out something for myself. I want to go the

Scott Groves  50:57  
only Ivy League educated bottle service girl Ever so

Bailie Sloan  51:00  
probably again not non traditional water polo wrestling crew Ivy leagues oh like I'm I'm getting out of corporate finance now right but um I knew I wanted to be entrepreneurial so I um originally got involved with a pool service company um operated that for a short while a couple years did well turned it around and then I was like I wanted to find something that's more in line with like what my true like passions in life are so you know swimming pools, not my what gets me out of bed in the morning, right? But again, just health, wellness, my own personal experiences of how far I'd gone, and like you know my overall again like functional medicine was wellness journey, so to speak, and obviously my enthusiasm for you know just beauty, fitness, wellness, all the things, right? Like as like any athletic girl would like. So I was looking for a brand that really aligned with me, and I feel like I was going through the like you know hamster wheel of like options. I looked into buying at one point like a UPS store. Like thought about the Dunkin' Donuts, the coffees. I am a coffee enthusiast, so I'm like, coffee seems like a good fit for me. But I'm like, well, I'm like, I have a heart attack from overconsuming the coffee, right? So I'm like, never getting

Scott Groves  51:56  
donuts don't really seem up your alley. I'm gonna be

Bailie Sloan  51:58  
honest. Oh, that's right. So I didn't really know what I wanted to do. So then, after like researching franchises for like over a year, well, first the franchise model appealed to me just because obviously it's like you have a team behind you, right? Right. So brand recognition, a support system, it feels a little bit less intimidating than doing something completely on your own, right? So it's almost it feels like a safety net, almost like your back, right? So the franchise model appealed to me in that manner, and then I ended up finding the talks just online. It was, you know, the first lymphatic drainage franchise model. I'm like, this is it. Like I lived into it. Love the brand founder. Love the mission behind it. Um, obviously the brand founder is a woman, Courtney Jager. So they're very big into female entrepreneurship. Um, that obviously resonates with me. Um, so something seems like a very positive. You know, when you come into the talks, one of the mission statements or values behind it is that we are a perfectly positive space, so it's very uplifting. Something that kind of adds to everyone's life. Again, whether or not you're somebody who's like coming there from the esthetic side of things, the one side of things, kind of the goal is a perfectly positive space. You come in, you leave, just rejuvenated and reset inside and out. So I think that's something that I'll say is a very just great thing to add to. Yeah,

Scott Groves  53:00  
also aligns with your personality perfectly, right? I love that. I don't. I don't know how you were when you were 21, but at however old you are now, there was no lack of energy and positivity. So it seems like good, good brand and personal alignment.

Bailie Sloan  53:12  
Exactly. So it was really brand personal alignment, and having my own experience of lymphatic drainage and what it did for my life personally, I was like, this is what I want to do. So I jumped in, um, and then yeah, I took the Vegas market over, and I've been running with it. So,

Scott Groves  53:24  
so are you like a technician? Do you do the treatments yourself, or do you hire people to do that? And you're just running the business, or no?

Bailie Sloan  53:30  
I'm just running the business. So I'm kind of the face behind, obviously, the Toxin Henderson. Um, I do a lot of my networking and local events to kind of bring the brand out there. I'm in the studio a lot, so typically, if you do see me in the studio and behind the front desk, that's my role, but obviously all of our technicians are advanced estheticians, so they're all girls that went to BD school. They learn lymphatic drainage. So one thing that makes us unique is that when it comes to lymphatic drainage, in well, usually like in America, every state has their own kind of compliance on like where they put it. So in the state of Nevada, in order to be a lymphatic drainage provider, you have to go to advanced advanced esthetician school. So it's usually that's why I find it interesting, and it's almost like a good fit because it's girls that go into beauty school, so to so to speak, um, advanced statisticians. So a lot of them are, you know, they go in for like, you know, I want to make people beautiful inside and out, the faces, the laser, the Botox, all the things. So the girls that have a passion for esthetics, obviously, and then there's also the body contouring and like wellness benefits to it. So to me, I think the girls that are a good fit, um, usually when I hire, I look for more personality. You went to beauty school. I trust that you can, you know, you're capable of learning, you're capable of following instructions. You you understand Nevada, you know, health compliance, state board of you know all the things you got to do legally. But I really look for girls that have a passion for body contouring, and it's kind of the wellness kind of the mindset that I have behind a lot of things. These are the girls that I hire. I always have them meet me at True Brew, the organic little coffee place. So usually, the girls that I hit off with the best are the ones that walk in, like, "Oh my gosh, I want your organic matcha latte, and blah blah blah. I'm like, "You're the girls going to come work for me. So kind of like the silly things, but you know, to me, it's more like your mindset. And girls have a passion for making others feel better. Yeah, that's really what I look for when I hire all my technicians. And then one thing that is cool about the franchise. Technicians go to New York City for training. So the other New York City, where like all the talks franchise kind of began, on they learn from the best of the best, like the advanced trainers at the talks in New York City, the training facility, and they come back and like they're experts behind it. And what really makes us different from other lymphatic drainage providers is that it is like a copyrighted, trademarked kind of special secret sauce, if you will. It's a blend of different modalities designed to get the best results possible. So I know, like Aussie, there's different types of lymphatic drainage people may or not be familiar with. So if you go to like a like a medical facility, I think there's a misconception that it's just post-op care. So if you're somebody who had like a cosmetic procedure, like a BBL, it's common that you get a lymphatic drainage treatment afterwards because during the treatment or during the procedure, they pump you full of saline water. All that fluid's got to go somewhere from the fat transfer. So those types of treatments, there's a couple different versions of them, but like it's usually very, very light touch,

Speaker 4  55:49  
right?

Bailie Sloan  55:49  
So you don't really feel a whole lot. But if you have a very obviously a compromised system post surgery, it's going to feel very intense to you. So it's very very different that we had to offer. We're very firm pressure. So assuming that you're a healthy person, no immediate surgeries, no open wounds, and things like that. Obviously, we're gonna go in on you. So it's very, very firm pressure designed to get the best just flow and push all that fluid out of your body. So

Scott Groves  56:09  
do people come to you like post plastic surgery to like kind of like contour and get all the get all the excess water out of them, or is that is that like common? Are you guys seeing people post?

Bailie Sloan  56:19  
It definitely is common. I know for us, we're not a non non medical facility. Again, we're more wellness, so we ask that, or kind of like our baseline is that your incisions are healed, so you're not immediately post op, but it is part of your long term care afterwards. So if you are freshly like you got surgery last week and you don't know where to go, not thread fit, you got to go to like a medical facility that's trained to not hurt you. Obviously, the stem and your skin is very, very delicate because we are a firm pressure. Again, more that wellness side of things, the blend of different modalities. It's going to be a very firm, almost kind of deeper pressure designed to get the best results possible. So it's almost if you, especially if you are for sympathetic drainage treatment, always communicate about how the pressure feels when pressing your midsection. Most people have never had their midsection rubbed before, so if you have a technician pressing in on you, it's going to feel a little intense. Always communicate about it. But again, the goal is to get the best results possible, and we push that fluid through. So if you can kind of like get through it, or if you have like a higher temperament to pressure, or like you know, if you had a deep tissue massage before, I'd say it's kind of similar to that on your midsection, but in particular, you'll see the changes we do before and after photos. So obviously, the goal is to get the best results possible. So again, it's at that firmer, deeper pressure.

Scott Groves  57:19  
This is so wild. Like I had no interest in this before you came in, as far as like doing it myself. Now I'm like, yeah, I should check this out. Like this sounds good.

Bailie Sloan  57:27  
Yeah, come check it out. We definitely get men, women, like all different ages, different like backgrounds. Yeah, it's really it's interesting to see who it caters to and why people come in the door. When people come in, I'm there. I was asking like, how did you find us? Why do why are you curious about us? Like it's always like interesting to hear the different like backgrounds and the people that walk in, it's always kind of funny too to me how like relax or come to people who are with like strangers. I get people that walk in, they'll like throw their leg up on the desk and like pull their pants off. They're like, "Can you look at my ankle? Is this normal? And I'm like, "Whoa, I just met you. Hi, I'm Bailey, by the way. Like it's it's kind of funny to me to come to us, but I do feel I feel almost like a empathy for people. So you know, people are like me. They're like, "I feel I had this problem. I don't know where else to go. Like, can you help me? We get that a lot.

Scott Groves  58:02  
Yeah, like swollen ankles. They'll tell you if you go to the doctors. Oh, it might you might have twisted it. You might have diabetes. Let's do a blood panel. They're not asking you, you know, a five page questionnaire to see if maybe you need drainage from your lymphatic system. Yeah, that's wild. What did I forget to ask you about this whole journey? Because this is all new to me, and I was like, "What questions am I going to even ask her? But we were talking for an hour. So, did I forget to ask you anything that people need to know about these treatments?

Bailie Sloan  58:27  
I would say just come in with an open mind. Again, like I came in my personal path of drinking treatment years ago, and I was like, "This is like some witch doctor science. I don't know if I trust this. But then, like, it shockingly made a huge impact on me. So, I've seen firsthand the impact that impact has had on my life, both short term, like those individual treatments of like walking off the table and being like, "Whoa, I look so much more defined. I look amazing. To like long term, how the impact has had on overall health and well being is how I feel day to day. That I think that like I think everybody can take something from this experience, whether or not again like you're looking for your one event that you want to look good for, your long term health benefits. Like you are somebody who walks in, like I don't know where else to go. I feel crappy. I feel miserable. My doctor came and told me to give you guys a shot. Like I think coming with an open mind and doing the best you can to adhere, like again, the best practices, like drinking a lot of fluid, refraining from stressing your body out immediately thereafter, and then again making it part of like your regular routine. Which I know nobody wants to hear that, but the reality when it comes like a lifestyle choice, like there's no one secret, one pill is gonna make it all go away. Right, there's no one treatment is gonna make it all go away.

Scott Groves  59:27  
I spend a couple $100 a month on Starbucks, so I'm sure I can find a way to like limit some of the excess that's going on in my life and redirect that to like wellness.

Bailie Sloan  59:35  
Absolutely, and I think again, like if you come in for like a one one time treatment, you're gonna see and feel the results from it. But the more regular you can make it part of like your everyday routine, the better off you're going to be in the long term. So we always say, if you're new to lymphatic drainage treatments, typically every other week is ideal. Once you figure out a maintenance phase in your life, and for everybody, that maintenance phase looks different. Usually, like once a month is like the best like kind of long term practices. But I see it too. A lot of our clientele that come in, they buy bundles, they buy packages. We'll see them biweekly, once a month. And then you know the holidays hit, some more vacations. We don't see them for a little while, and then they're calling and texting us like, "When can you get me in? I I just came back from vacation. I feel miserable. They come back. They're like, "I don't know why I fell off the wagon with you guys. And you know they come back and they're big for their team. But you know I hear this so often. I know it's not just me. It really is. Again, like I hear this from men. I hear this from women. They're like, "When I come see you guys burglary, like I feel so much less puffy and Vegas heat, I sleep better at night. My allergies have gone away. Like so many things that I hear from people firsthand that you know it really is it

Scott Groves  1:00:27  
works. It just can't be a placebo with that many with that many test cases.

Bailie Sloan  1:00:31  
Exactly, it's

Scott Groves  1:00:31  
got to be doing something.

Bailie Sloan  1:00:32  
Yeah, absolutely.

Scott Groves  1:00:33  
So where do people find you? Website or Instagram or just give your address or whatever. Where can people find you? We'll put that. Make sure it's on all the show notes and all that fun stuff.

Bailie Sloan  1:00:41  
Sure. So we're on St. Rose, 3255 St. Rose Parkway, Suite 170. We're kind of hidden back there. Our our building, um, right at the corner where Spencer turns into Seven Hills. Okay. Um. So right in there, because we're next to True Brew Coffee, so we're at that St. Quinell Shopping Plaza. Love them. Um. And then yeah, our social media is at the Talks Henderson on Instagram. There's like a

Scott Groves  1:00:57  
T O X.

Bailie Sloan  1:00:58  
Yes, T O X Talks, like detox, and then we have like a company-wide TikTok as well at the Talks Technique.

Scott Groves  1:01:04  
Perfect. Well, thanks for being in. I'm going to see you in the studio here sooner than you thought, probably.

Bailie Sloan  1:01:08  
Awesome. Thanks. We'll see you soon.

Scott Groves  1:01:11  
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